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Is Teamwork Socialism? Where Do We Draw the Line?

Posted by cassiepatt on April 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM

I was reading an interesting blog entry about how our country is drifting toward socialism.  The blogger used a story to illustrate the problems with this. 


"An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.

But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all
resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great; but when government takes all the reward away; no one will try or want to succeed."'


Most of the readers agreed with the bloggers interpretation. Being a diehard Capitalist, I was ready to jump in and agree.   However, one respondent had a different take on the lesson.  He felt that the story was more of an illustration of a failure of the group to work together.  This interpretation made me pause.  I know that as a "top" student myself, I hated it when other's received credit for my work.  However, I found that as a teacher, it was important to teach students to both excel independently and in teams.  I personally think that it would have been more revealing if the students were given another chance to earn a combined grade.  This time, after receiving some guidance in teamwork. 


In the "real world", there are certainly times when we must be prepared to work as a team.  Sometimes, even with people we don't necessarily like.  So how do teachers and parents prepare their students/children for this ambiguity? 



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6 Comments

Reply anonymous
01:06 AM on April 06, 2009 
In the illustration above, one basic premise about socialism was missed, however you touched on it when you mentioned the need for teamwork.

The teacher in the story requires the students to study and take the tests individually and then apply results equally through taking the average of all test scores. That is the general idea of equal distribution of wealth.

However, in a true socialist system, the workers (i.e. students) would have the opportunity upfront to determine the best means of production (i.e. receiving an A in the class). It is a team system and therefore the students should establish the rules on how to accomplish the desired results. They may choose to divide up responsibilities so that a portion of the class takes the test each time as representatives of the class. This could allow groups to specialize on a smaller set of topics, thus increasing the chance for a higher grade. Or maybe they organize study groups so that everyone is the most productive.

Don?t get me wrong, I am not a believer in a socialist system. I am a strong proponent of capitalism and the "free market." However, I am disturbed with stories like this circulating because it is part of a general surge of rhetoric focused on fear and not reality.
The term "socialism" is considered a dirty word and is a label immediately slapped on programs being proposed by the current administration. I think it is being used as a scare tactic reminiscent of the ?red scares? during the cold war. Even capitalism allows for the state to provide some public goods and infrastructre (i.e. K-12 education). It seems we are in a period of redefining what is a public good. Does that include basic universal healthcare and minimal housing? I think it is too early to tell.

In our polarized political environment, terms like ?socialism? are being used inappropriately to distract people from what is important. We need to have real discourse on issues that is rationally and not emotionally based. They ability to do is the real lesson we need to be teaching our children.
Reply cassiepatt
02:29 PM on April 06, 2009 
Jennie,
You hit the nail on the head. It never does anyone good to make decisions based on fear. It is important that we prepare our children/students for the real world. One of the challenges is trying to envision what the world will look like. It may look very different from the one we are living in today.

Your point about the workers/students being able to have a say in the best way to reach their outcome and possibly appointing spokespeople is valid. Isn't that what we do in real world companies? Currently, as a Sales Rep, I have to work with product development, marketing, training and customer service to make sure that we meet our customer's demands. Without each of these parts, we would be much less successful as a company, yet, if I tried to handle product development, and product development tried to handle sales, we might be in even more trouble!
Reply Ira Socol
07:43 AM on April 08, 2009 
Sad that this person gets to teach economics, but that's America (and Texas Tech). I wish those who teach economics in the US actually knew what "socialism" meant, but after decades here. I realize that they are so blinded by their nationalist myths, they perhaps never will.

So, socialism is not about "averaging." It is about society functioning together as a team, a concept most clearly shown by John Nash's famous Equilibrium. Socialism is not "State Socialism" (the old Soviet Union structure, which split from the rest of Marxist philosophy over 130 years ago), but a method of allocating resources equitably, and acknowledging that it is, essentially, impossible for social animals like humans to succeed without society, and thus that those who succeed owe things back to society. (Why do those who insist that they "did it on their own" get to use government built roads? fly through government built airports? or call the government's police to protect their property from attack?)

So, an economics professor needed to structure an entirely different exercise to explain socialism. In fact, that exercise, which should have involved providing differentiated instruction and peer coaching based in individual student needs and strengths, would have made this professor a much better teacher.

It is amusing to me. All around us we use the creative fruits of socialist economies. We drive European and Japanese cars. We depend on European designed telecom systems. We import European energy technologies. We furnish our homes from Ikea. And all the while we insist that their system does not work.
Reply cassiepatt
12:12 PM on April 09, 2009 
Ira,
Thank you so much for your concise response. I thoroughly enjoyed your blog post, expanding on this subject and how it relates to NCLB. http://bit.ly/9cQq "How can a nation whose deepest myths enshrine the ideas of "doing it on your own," "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps," and "sink or swim," possibly create an educational system which works for all students?..."
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